The Year That Was: 2014 in Film

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Starring David Oyelowo

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Starring Christoph Waltz and Amy Adams

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Tuesday, January 20, 2015

Sean Penn gets Hunted in New Trailer for 'The Gunman'


Is Sean Penn on the verge of a Liam Neeson-style renaissance as an action star? It could happen if audiences turn out to watch him beat up bad guys in The Gunman, a genre flick directed by Pierre Morel, the guy behind the first Taken. Coincidence?

A new international trailer for The Gunman suggests it could be a bit more high-minded than the Taken movies are, although it still gives Penn plenty of butts to kick. Based on the popular book series, the film centers on ex-Special Forces soldier Martin Terrier (Penn) now working as a military contractor who suddenly comes under attack from his own people. What follows is an international game of cat and mouse that will see Penn squaring off with co-stars Idris Elba, Javier Bardem, and Ray Winstone. Given the success of American Sniper it's not surprising the trailer begins with Penn's character, who suffers from PTSD, taking out a foe from long range.

The Gunman takes aim at theaters on March 20th 2015.

Thursday, December 11, 2014

It's Sean Penn vs. Javier Bardem in First 'The Gunman' Trailer



Shady government organizations, lots of guns and even more hitmen. If it sounds like the makings of Taken 4 or something, then you're only partially right. Taken director Pierre Morel is at the helm of The Gunman, which despite its barebones and familiar plot has rounded up a starry cast led by Sean Penn, Javier Bardem, and Idris Elba.

The first trailer has arrived and it's a bit more restrained than Morel's work tends to be, at least initially, so maybe he's working up to the talents of his cast? Penn plays a renowned hitman who wants out of the killing game so he can be with the love of his life, but of course things are never so simple. Bardem seems to have taken on yet another colorful role as Penn's best friend-turned-nemesis, and this trailer is just pumping machismo all over the place.

Also starring Ray Winstone, Jasmine Trinca, and Mark Rylance, The Gunman opens March 20th.

Tuesday, October 14, 2014

Javier Bardem in Talks for 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Villain Role



So is this a case of a husband and wife swapping movie sequels? Javier Bardem stars in Skyfall, then Penelope Cruz is rumored for Bond 24. She stars in Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and now he's in talks to play the villain in the next film, which is gearing up faster than expected.

According to The Wrap, Bardem is in early talks to swash buckles with Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell no Tales. Before producers sought out Bardem they apparently went after Christoph Waltz, himself no stranger to playing bad guys, but for whatever reason those talks are now over.

And production is moving quickly now with co-directors Joachim Ronning and Espen Sandberg (Kon-Tiki) beginning pre-production next month for shooting on the reported $200M film to start in February. Yeah, you read that right, $200M. Remember when Disney was all concerned about costs? Forget about it now. Pirates of the Caribbean 5 is expected to open on July 7th 2017.

Thursday, April 10, 2014

Javier Bardem Joins Sean Penn's 'The Last Face'


Revealed only a couple of days ago, details are starting to emerge about Sean Penn's next directorial effort, starting with a correction on the title. Originally reported as The Last Space, the film is actually called The Last Face, which makes a little more sense for the Africa-set drama. With Charlize Theron and Adele Exarchapoulos already on board, Penn has now added Javier Bardem to the cast.

Penned by Erin Dignam, the story follows an American relief worker (Theron) who meets and falls in love with a charismatic doctor (Bardem) against the backdrop of turmoil and political unrest in Africa. Exarchapoulous will play a journalist, with Penn co-starring in an unspecified role.

Filming is set to begin this summer. [TheWrap]

Wednesday, April 9, 2014

Javer Bardem to Headline Biopic on Famous WWII Double Agent



One of my favorite documentaries of the last few years was Garbo: The Spy, which chronicled the amazing true story of Joan Pujol Garcia, a WWII spy and double-agent working for the Allies against the Nazis. He was so convincing in his efforts that the German government awarded him the Iron Cross in 1944, even though he was actively working against them. He was also honored by the British government, making him one of the few to receive awards from both for his war efforts. The documentary was directed by Edmon Roch, a producer on Javier Bardem's Biutiful, and it's possible the two discussed Pujol's story on set, because the actor is now bringing it to the big screen.

According to The Tracking Board, Bardem is attached to lead a film based on Pujol's career as a double-agent. While no writer or director is attached at this time, it will be an adaptation of Stephen Talty's book, Agent Garbo: The Brilliant, Eccentric Secret Agent Who Tricked Hitler and Saved D-Day.

This won't be the first time movie on Pujol's life has been attempted, with one surfacing back in 2006 that never developed. Hopefully with a star like Bardem on board, this one will get the support it needs to start moving.

Monday, January 6, 2014

Stephen Spielberg May Direct 'Montezuma' Based on Dalton Trumbo Script


While Steven Spielberg's name continued to be mentioned for a number of projects in 2013, for the most part they were projects he was dropping out of. For awhile he was expected to follow-up Lincoln with the big budget sci-fi adaptation, Robopocalypse, before shelving it so the script could be improved. He then came aboard American Sniper, which had a ton of heat behind it until he dropped out of that, as well. So it's still up in the air what he'll actually direct next, but an interesting new contender has emerged.

Deadline reports Spielberg may direct Montezuma, about the 16th century conflict that led to the fall of the Aztec Empire. What's interesting about it is the script would be based on the work of blacklisted writer Dalton Trumbo, which he penned some fifty years ago. Trumbo was one of Hollywood's most prominent screenwriters, penning Spartacus, Roman Holiday, and The Brave One, but was blacklisted for refusing to testify during the House's investigation into Communist activity. He apparently developed Montezuma at the behest of his Spartacus star, Kirk Douglas, but the project never made it into development. Steve Zaillian will produce and give the script a rewrite, and apparently Javier Bardem is interested in the role of Spanish Conquistador Hernán Cortés, and the title may actually change to 'Cortes' since the film is told from his point-of-view.

It was only a couple of years ago that Trumbo was finally given full credit for penning Roman Holiday, and with Bryan Cranston set to play him in an upcoming biopic, it's good to see Trumbo's work being recognized again. At this point it's unclear when Spielberg could fit this project into his schedule. It could be next or further down the line as there's always the possibility he dusts off Robopocalypse first. He's also attached to produce another long-shelved project, Stanley Kubrick's Napoleon, which Baz Luhrmann is directing as a TV miniseries.

Saturday, November 16, 2013

Javier Bardem Offered Blackbeard Role in Joe Wright's 'Pan'


After playing bad guys in Skyfall, No Country for Old Men, and The Counselor, there's nobody who plays strangely-haired villains better than Javier Bardem. With Joe Wright (Atonement) now attached to direct Pan, a Peter Pan origin story, he's in need of someone to make his stay in Neverland miserable, and it looks like Bardem may be the guy.

Deadline reports that Bardem has been offered the role of Blackbeard in the film, which was written by Jason Fuchs. The story will center on an orphan taken to magical Neverland where he battles pirates and becomes the savior to the natives. We recently saw Blackbeard in Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, played by Ian McShane, and it'll be interesting to see the differences between the two portrayals.

Of course, it all depends on whether Bardem even takes the deal. Skyfall was the biggest film he's ever tackled and it may have given him the itch to do more franchises.

Thursday, July 18, 2013

New Teaser for 'The Counselor' Is All Kinds of Sexy


What's your poison? Women, men, money, power, violence? Whatever it is this new trailer for Ridley Scott's The Counselor has got it.

It's not often that I get completely cised for an upcoming film off the :30 second teaser trailer, but let me break this down for you. Oh, and I should include that after watching it I still have only the most vaugue of ideas as to what it's about. We start off with an off screen death trap that is sure to have been the most gory you've seen in a while. Cut to Javier Bardem's "Best Spanish Guy Accent of All Time" voice-over, insert shots of Micheal Fassbender and Brad Pitt looking cool and for good measure throw some super-hot Penelope Cruz on top. The bonus? Well that's something that I did not think was realistically possible. A HOT Cameron Diaz. I haven't been a fan of that woman's looks since The Mask in '94, but here we are almost 20 years later and I can say without reservation that la chick es caliente. FO SHO!

Check it out.


Wednesday, June 5, 2013

Javier Bardem Lines Up 'The Gunman' and 'A Most Violent Year'


Whether he's a hero (rare, but it happens) or a villain, Javier Bardem is one of the most compelling actors around, which is why he's been a very busy guy of late. He was just seen in Terrence Malick's To the Wonder, or not seen if you nearly dozed off like I did. He also filmed Ridley Scott's The Counselor, and of course there was that whole Skyfall thing which made a little bit of money somewhere.  After all of that, Bardem isn't slowing down, adding two more projects to his calendar.

First up, Bardem will join Sean Penn in The Gunman, an adaptation of Jean-Patrick Manchette's novel, The Prone Gunman. The script by Peter Travis (Dredd) has Penn as hired killer Martin Terrier, who wants to leave the business and marry his sweetheart, but his old bosses won't let him go, forcing him to go on the run where he is confronted by Bardem. Pierre Morel (Taken) is behind the camera for that one, so the results are a little tough to predict.

This fall Bardem will star in A Most Violent Year, the next film from Margin Call director, J.C. Chandor. There are absolutely no details on what it could entail, but Bardem will apparently be the "good guy". The film was announced at Cannes, where Chandor and Robert Redford's All is Lost was the surprise hit of the festival. [Deadline]

Friday, April 12, 2013

Review: 'To the Wonder' directed by Terrence Malick


There was a time when Terrence Malick made us wait years, sometimes decades, for one of his films to hit theaters. They became something of an event unto themselves, sometimes producing elegantly-composed gems like Badlands, Days of Heaven, and at least in this critic's opinion, The New World. Suddenly on a prolific streak, it's been less than two years between spiritual, meditative The Tree of Life and his latest film, To the Wonder, but he may have been better off letting this one simmer for a while longer.

When Malick is on the top of his game, his work is beyond reproach, the gorgeous cinematography lending weight and credence to what are absorbing ruminations on faith, love, and family. However, when his focus is less certain you get the utter randomness of To the Wonder, an indulgent flight of fancy so abstract and vague it's likely to blow away during one of Olga Kurylenko's numerous dancing scenes. That seems to have become the new standard for Malick's choice of lead female characters; how do they look prancing along wind-swept hills while the sun rains down on them from on high? Without any real soul or depth, for all intents and purposes Malick might as well be making a really elaborate perfume commercial.

Taking us from Paris and the Mont St. Michel in France to the Rockwellian wheat fields of Oklahoma, To the Wonder explores the fading relationship between a boring American geologist and the French single-mother he falls in love. Ben Affleck wanders around in a close-mouthed stupor as Neil, who we meet as he's sweeping through France with Marina, a single mother who seems to be utterly in love with life. The two quickly fall for one another, and we see them in the throes of their passion and ecstasy. This is what Malick really wants to show us, two gorgeous people in one of the most beautiful cities in the world, and his camera eats up every dreamy moment. Poetic internal narratives occasionally spill forth, but mostly the film unfolds wordlessly, hoping that mood and the suggestive score will be enough.

Malick's approach works well enough until we're expected to follow the couple's mysterious descent into uncertainty. Leaving France for the comparative blandness of Neil's home in Oklahoma, it isn't long before Marina recognizes that a poor dinner in Paris always beats lunch at a Sonic drive-thru. She has no roots in America, and can't relate to ordinary farmer folk with their boring lives. Aimless, with no friends to lean on for support, Marina and her daughter grow unhappy quickly. The dancing stops, replaced by brooding and fights we're not allowed in on. When she ultimately leaves him, Neil takes up with an old flame played by Rachel McAdams. This is probably the most needless and baffling sequence of all, and would have made more sense if Malick had thrown in a few dinosaurs or exploding planets. Rachel McAdams turns up for a cup of coffee as Neil's former flame, and the two reconnect while doing nothing other than staring at buffalo all day. Then she just ups and disappears without so much as a "by your leave".

Quickly taking on the tenor of a Malick spoof, the film reaches ridiculous lows with the side story of a priest who is desperately trying to regain his faith. Javier Bardem is a terrific actor who can say more with his eyes than most can with a thousand words, but not even he can make sense of his character's meaningless ramblings. As we see him skulking around the poorest neighborhoods trying to shepherd his flock of sheep, it becomes obvious that his character serves no purpose.

Malick may be trying to draw some sort of parallel between people who are on shaky ground in matters of love and faith, but his characters are so thin that it's impossible to care. None of them feel real enough to matter. To the Wonder resembles the director going to the well once too often, incorrectly assuming that what has worked for him in the past will always be sufficient.




Sunday, March 10, 2013

New trailer and clip from Terrence Malick's 'To the Wonder'


We're past the point of seeing Terrence Malick as some recluse who pops his head out every twenty years or so, drops a new film on us, then goes back into hiding. The guy is hanging out at film festivals and releasing new films at the rate of one every two years or so. Nobody's ever going to confuse him with Takashi Miike, but Malick's prolific streak has been hugely exciting to watch.

A new trailer for his sixth film, To the Wonder, has been released and it again shows us the gorgeous cinematography by The Tree of Life's Emmanuelle Lubezki. Ben Affleck and Olga Kurylenko star as a couple who meet and fall in love while in France, returning to his hometown in Oklahoma where things don't go quite as smoothly. Rachel McAdams and Javier Bardem co-star, and it looks like another poetic and heartfelt piece by Malick.

Check out the trailer below, along with a new clip that gives a better sense of the film's mood. To the Wonder opens on April 12th.


To the Wonder - trailer #2 [HD] (2013) Terrence Malick, Ben Affleck, Rachel McAdams, Javier Bardem, Olga Kurylenko by myfilm-gr

Monday, December 24, 2012

Three new posters for Terrence Malick's 'To the Wonder'




If you saw the recent trailer for Terrence Malick's To the Wonder, it probably felt pretty familiar. Clearly he's aiming squarely at those who fell in love with The Tree of Life last year, sweeping them up in the same ambitious swirl of emotions for a romance drama starring Ben Affleck, Rachel McAdams, Olga Kurylenko, and Javier Bardem. The film caused quite a split amongst those who saw it in Venice and Toronto. Nothing new for a Malick film, really.

A handful of new French posters have been revealed before it hits theaters in the U.K. in February. We'll have to wait until April 12th for it to open in the U.S. Check 'em out below....[Metro]








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Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Breathtaking first trailer for Terrence Malick's 'To the Wonder' with Ben Affleck and Rachel McAdams


This may come as a shock but there was a good deal of controversy surrounding a Terrence Malick movie. Yeah, go figure. Just as his The Tree of Life was met with polarizing reception on the festival circuit, Malick's To the Wonder was....well, let's just say it was "harshly received" in Venice. Par for the course, but if you loved his last film and appreciate Malick's sweeping ruminations on love and spirituality, then To the Wonder is probably going to be high on your must-see list.

Other than a handful of still photos, we've seen next to nothing from To the Wonder, but now the first trailer has been unveiled, and if you loved Emmanuel Lubezki's poetic cinematography in The Tree of Life then prepare for a film that looks just as gorgeous. Ben Affleck stars as a man who returns to his Oklahoma home with his new European bride(Olga Kurylenko), only to reconnect with his childhood sweetheart played by Rachel McAdams. Javier Bardem, who received the bulk of audience scorn, turns up as a priest suffering from a crisis of faith.

Entrancing imagery abounds, and the sheer majesty of that score simply can't be overstated. Malick pumped this one out pretty quickly, for him anyway, but he doesn't appear to have let up on the emotional throttle in the least. To the Wonder opens April 12th....[The Guardian]

Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Terrence Malick's upcoming romance gets a title and 'R' rating


It's become a little overwhelming trying to keep track of all the projects Terrence Malick has headed our way. That's pretty remarkable considering how we used to wait years for him to complete another film, just like we waited forever for The Tree of Life last year. We know just this year alone Malick will be filming the music industry drama, formerly titled Lawless, and he also has Knight of Cups planned. There was one more untitled romance film that we actually heard about first, with Ben Affleck, Olga Kurylenko, Rachel McAdams, Amanda Peet, Javier Bardem, Rachel Weisz, Jessica Chastain and Barry Pepper all set to star. Now that incredible sounding film not only has a title, but we also have a clue just how intense it may be.

To The Wonder is the title of Malick's film according to The Classifications and Rating Administration. The story has Affleck as a philanderer who, feeling at loose ends, travels to Paris and hooks up with a hot European woman(Kurylenko). Returning home to Oklahoma, he marries the European woman partly out of Visa concerns, but when the relationship starts to fail he rekindles a romance with a hometown girl(McAdams) that he shares a history with.  The film has been granted an 'R' rating for "some sexuality/nudity". 

The rating is a good sign that the film is close to being completed, but as we all know from Malick's history, he tends to get a little obsessive in the editing process. Still, there's an outside shot we'll see this later in the year, or possibly early in 2013. [TheFilmStage]

Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Sure Shots: Javier Bardem; Paul Rudd; Clark Gregg

* With Skyfall and The Counselor on the way, Javier Bardem is still finding time to fit in an adaptation of his brother's novel, Alacrán Enamorado(aka Scorpion in Love). Carlos Bardem will adapt his own book, with Santiago Zannou directing the film which is being described as a multicultural take on Romeo and Juliet. The story follows a neo-Nazi nicknamed "Scorpion"(Alex Gonzalez) who falls in love with a Latin American immigrant. Bardem will play a neo-Nazi idealogue. [Twitch]

* I think Lynn Shelton may be looking at one of the surprise hits of the summer when Your Sister's Sister opens later this year. She had been set to direct Laggies, yet another indie relationship dramedy with a script by Andrea Spiegel, but it was delayed and she filled that time by taking on Touchy Feely, which stars Ellen Page, Rosemarie DeWitt, and Scoot McNairy. Now it looks like Laggies is back in the picture, and she's even brought along Paul Rudd to star. The story follows a 28-year old woman in a state of arrested development, who responds to her boyfriend's marriage proposal by pretending to be on a retreat with a bunch of high school kids. No word on who will play the woman, but when we last wrote about this film I had hoped for Greta Gerwig. Fingers still crossed.  [NYT]

* One of the best things about all of Marvel's films, including The Avengers, has been the emergence of Clark Gregg as S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Phil Coulson. Always a great character actor, Gregg is now stepping out beyond the world of superheroes for his next film, although the talent involved could be considered superhuman. He'll join Labor Day, the next project from Jason Reitman(Young Adult), an adaptation of Joyce Maynard's novel about a boy and his divorced mother(Kate Winslet), who pick up a hitch-hiker(Josh Brolin) over Labor Day weekend. He turns out to be an escaped convict, who proceeds to impart some life lessons on them both. James Van Der Beek co-stars, with Gregg's role currently unknown. [THR]

Thursday, April 12, 2012

Brad Pitt and Javier Bardem to join Ridley Scott's 'The Counselor'



The Counselor has been progressing along like greased lightning ever since the film, which features an original script by author Cormac McCarthy, was announced just a couple of months ago. Ridley Scott jumped on board to direct in record time, making it priority #1, and the hottest actor in Hollywood, Michael Fassbender, signed to star. Not to mention every bit of A-list talent in the biz has been hovering like vultures trying to get just a small piece of the film described as being similar to McCarthy's No Country for Old Men.

Well two of those big names are on the verge of being official, as Deadline reports that Brad Pitt and Javier Bardem are locked in and ready to go. Bardem makes sense, considering he won an Academy Award for playing the bad guy in 'No Country'. I believe he's taking the part that Jeremy Renner was also being discussed for. Pitt hasn't worked with Scott since Thelma and Louise, and is said to be taking on the role of West Ray, a man who advises Fassbender's character, the titular counselor in navigating the drug trade from which he's trying to escape.

As for Angelina Jolie, rumored yesterday to be up for a small role, she's still in contention but it'll be for the female lead. That doesn't sound like a cameo to me at all. So yeah, this is turning out to be a truly charmed production.

Friday, March 9, 2012

Natalie Portman in talks for 'The Counselor'; Jeremy Renner, Javier Bardem still in the picture


Without a doubt, the one film every actor in Hollywood wants to be a part of is The Counselor, and for very good reason. Not only does it feature the first original screenplay from one of this generation's finest authors in Cormac McCarthy(The Road), but it was quickly snapped up for production with Ridley Scott at the helm. Michael Fassbender quickly followed, taking on the lead role, with reports of numerous big names to come.

Last we'd heard, Brad Pitt, Jeremy Renner, and Javier Bardem were being looked at for the same role, that of the story's "villain", a man named Reiner who first lures Fassbender's lawyer into the drug trade he can't escape from.  According to Twitch, Pitt appears to be out of the running, with Bardem as Scott's preferred choice. Assuming all the schedules align, he'll be there on set when production begins in May. Makes sense, considering Bardem fit into the McCarthy world so perfectly in No Country for Old Men. This is still very early, with both men in only very preliminary negotiations.

It's possible also that Natalie Portman's return from her pregnancy hiatus will be in this rather than the two upcoming films from Terrence Malick. She has entered early talks for the role of Laura, the female lead and fiancee to Fassbender's character. Portman's upcoming schedule is already tight enough, and if you throw in the Thor sequel she's going not going to have a moment's rest over the next year.

I'm holding out hope that both Renner and Bardem will find their way into the film, because it sounds like there are plenty of juicy roles to go around.

Friday, February 24, 2012

Brad Pitt, Javier Bardem, and Jeremy Renner circling Cormac McCarthy scripted 'The Counselor'

If this is how things are going to go for Cormac McCarthy, then we might see a lot more original screenplays from the acclaimed author. His script for The Counselor, which is being described as similar to his No Country for Old Men, has had the easiest path to production than anything I've ever seen. Not only was it snapped up by producers in record time, but soon after Ridley Scott took over as director and put it at the top of his to-do list. As for who would star? Only the hottest actor in Hollywood right now, one Mr. Michael Fassbender. 

And it's about to get even better. It had been reported that a number of high profile actors were lining up to be a part of it, and boy was that not an exaggeration. Deadline reports that Javier Bardem, Brad Pitt, and Jeremy Renner are all circling the same role, described as the story's villain Who gets the job will likely depend on scheduling for all three. Renner has a mountain of stuff coming up, and Bardem may as well if The Dark Tower stars align. The report notes Pitt's schedule specifically, although that's odd considering the only film he has locked down is an adaptation of Twelve Years a Slave, which in a nice twist of fate also features Fassbender.

A May start date is being planned for the film, which follows a respected lawyer who makes the mistake of getting into the drug trade.  A couple of crucial female roles need to be filled as well, so we'll probably hear something on that soon.

Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Lily Collins departs the 'Evil Dead' remake; 'Despicable Me 2' loses Javier Bardem





A couple of quick notes on some movies that are back to square one on the casting front. The first is the remake of Sam Raimi's Evil Dead, which is being helmed by Spanish filmmaker Fede Alvarez. At this stage, the only casting we had heard so far was Lily Collins(The Blind Side), playing a recovering drug addict who must pull her sh*t together when actual demons start attacking her and her friends. Collins has now had to drop out due to what is being described as "scheduling conflicts". Or because the movie will suck, but that's just my two cents.

Also, Javier Bardem was recently in talks to voice a villain named El Macho in the upcoming sequel to Despicable Me. He's now left that project with the role back up for grabs. Considering Bardem's busy schedule, with Skyfall coming up and a possible film/television adaptation of The Dark Tower, it's no wonder he couldn't fit it in.


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Thursday, October 6, 2011

Javier Bardem to voice the villain in Despicable Me sequel


It took me a couple of times before I really started to love Despicable Me, but eventually I was hooked by those precocious orphans and the way they transformed sad sack evil genius Gru(Steve Carell) into a halfway decent dude. Plus the minions are too funny to be denied. The world apparently couldn't resist them, either, as the animated flick earned over $500M, ensuring there would be a sequel. Heck, we've already got early promo posters for it. Carell will obviously be back, but it looks like my thought that Gru would maybe slip back into a life of crime was way off, as Javier Bardem has just signed on to voice the villain.

Plot details are basically nonexistent at this stage, and with the film not due to open until July 2013 it'll be awhile before we do. It's always possible Bardem's character will be a coin flipping, cattle gun carrying, bringer of death like in No Country For Old Men. That would be friggin' awesome, but maybe a little too rough for the kiddies. [THR]